In this episode Tim and Chris unpack the Inevitable Disclosure Doctrine, a century old trade secret rule that began in 1902 when a sugar refinery worker was blocked from joining a competitor. They explain how the doctrine works, the three factors courts consider, and how it is used to prevent potential misuse of trade secrets before any misappropriation occurs. The conversation explores how different states treat the doctrine, reviews the landmark PepsiCo v Redmond case, and looks at how its use has shifted from senior executives to highly skilled engineers, especially in the AI industry. As noncompete agreements face bans and tighter restrictions across the United States, the doctrine is becoming a more important tool for protecting valuable trade secrets.
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Not yet ranked as the #1 Trade Secrets-related podcast in the world, Timothy Londergan and Chris Buntel discuss the latest developments in trade secrets and litigation. New episodes every month.
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Episode 18: When Trade Secrets Drive M&A featuring Ray Miller
In this episode Tim and Chris unpack the Inevitable Disclosure Doctrine, a century old trade secret rule that began in 1902 when a sugar refinery worker was blocked from joining a competitor. They explain how the doctrine works, the three factors courts consider, and how it is used to prevent potential misuse of trade secrets before any misappropriation occurs. The conversation explores how different states treat the doctrine, reviews the landmark PepsiCo v Redmond case, and looks at how its use has shifted from senior executives to highly skilled engineers, especially in the AI industry. As noncompete agreements face bans and tighter restrictions across the United States, the doctrine is becoming a more important tool for protecting valuable trade secrets.
Episode 17: The Lifecycle of Trade Secret Protection featuring Raluca David
In this episode Tim and Chris unpack the Inevitable Disclosure Doctrine, a century old trade secret rule that began in 1902 when a sugar refinery worker was blocked from joining a competitor. They explain how the doctrine works, the three factors courts consider, and how it is used to prevent potential misuse of trade secrets before any misappropriation occurs. The conversation explores how different states treat the doctrine, reviews the landmark PepsiCo v Redmond case, and looks at how its use has shifted from senior executives to highly skilled engineers, especially in the AI industry. As noncompete agreements face bans and tighter restrictions across the United States, the doctrine is becoming a more important tool for protecting valuable trade secrets.
Episode 16: How a Century-Old Rule Still Shapes Trade Secrets
In this episode of Reasonable Measures, Tim and Chris explore how artificial intelligence (AI) is colliding with intellectual property (IP) law, particularly focusing on copyrights, patents, and trade secrets. They highlight legal challenges around whether AI can be considered an “inventor” or “author,” and revisit the well-known “monkey selfie” case as a precedent for non-human creations. As AI-generated outputs become more sophisticated, traditional IP frameworks are being tested. The conversation also touches on the value of trade secrets in protecting AI models, especially when patents are either too slow or publicly revealing.
Episode 15: How AI Is Eating Your IP
In this episode of Reasonable Measures, Tim and Chris explore how artificial intelligence (AI) is colliding with intellectual property (IP) law, particularly focusing on copyrights, patents, and trade secrets. They highlight legal challenges around whether AI can be considered an “inventor” or “author,” and revisit the well-known “monkey selfie” case as a precedent for non-human creations. As AI-generated outputs become more sophisticated, traditional IP frameworks are being tested. The conversation also touches on the value of trade secrets in protecting AI models, especially when patents are either too slow or publicly revealing.
Episode 14: Monkey Selfies & AI Inventions Navigating Copyrights, Patents, and Trade Secrets
In this episode of Reasonable Measures, Tim and Chris explore how artificial intelligence (AI) is colliding with intellectual property (IP) law, particularly focusing on copyrights, patents, and trade secrets. They highlight legal challenges around whether AI can be considered an “inventor” or “author,” and revisit the well-known “monkey selfie” case as a precedent for non-human creations. As AI-generated outputs become more sophisticated, traditional IP frameworks are being tested. The conversation also touches on the value of trade secrets in protecting AI models, especially when patents are either too slow or publicly revealing.
Episode 13: $1.8 Billion and Counting, The Cost of Trade Secret Theft
In this episode of the Reasonable Measures podcast, Tim and Chris return after a busy start to the year to dive into a landmark trade secret case: Phillips 66 v. Propel Fuels. They unpack how Propel secured a $604.9 million judgment—later tripled to a staggering $1.8 billion—due to willful and malicious trade secret misappropriation. The discussion highlights key risk mitigation strategies for companies navigating M&A due diligence and the evolving perception of trade secrets as a core intellectual property strategy. Tim and Chris also share insights from recent conferences and industry conversations, emphasizing how more organizations are proactively managing trade secret protection and governance.
第12集:商业秘密诉讼闪电战
在本期 "合理措施 "播客中,Tim 和 Chris 讨论了拉脱维亚、中国和美国的三个著名商业秘密案例。他们探讨了举报人报复的影响、商业秘密与刑法的交叉以及 IQVIA 与 Viva Systems 之间正在进行的诉讼的复杂性。对话强调了商业秘密保护不断变化的形势,以及公司和个人面临的法律挑战。
第 11 集:最有可能被窃取的商业秘密
Discover why customer lists are the most litigated trade secrets in this episode of The Reasonable Measures Podcast. Hosts Tim and Chris explore key case studies, trade secret definitions, and practical tips for protecting valuable IP.
第 10 集:商业秘密损害赔偿在全球范围内计算
Explore the high-stakes Motorola vs. Hytera trade secret lawsuit involving global damages and cross-border IP theft. Learn how U.S. trade secret laws protect multinational companies, with insights into damages, injunctions, and global legal implications.
第 9 集:如何在偷窃生意时被抓并在法庭上输掉 $96M
Explore the high-stakes case of Prysmian vs. Sterlite, where trade secret theft led to a $96M judgment. Learn best practices for protecting sensitive business data, the evolving legal landscape, and the rising financial stakes of intellectual property litigation.
第 8 集:Appian 的 $2b 商业秘密 "噗 "的一声消失了
Explore the reversal of Appian’s $2 billion trade secret damages award against Pegasystems. Discover key issues in the damages calculation, insurance complexities, and the potential for refiling under the Defend Trade Secrets Act (DTSA).
第 7 集:商业秘密案判决破纪录
Explore the landmark Chengdu v. Wei case on The Reasonable Measures Podcast. Discover how China’s record-breaking $88M trade secret judgment signals a shift in IP enforcement, driven by domestic pressures for stronger protections and fair competition.
第 6 集:教授欠学生的 $26.6M
Discover the dramatic Sigma Pharma trade secret lawsuit in The Reasonable Measures Podcast. Learn how extreme employment terms led to a $26.6M judgment and key takeaways for employees and startups navigating equity agreements and legal disputes.
第 5 集:商业秘密三角恋--波音欠 Zunum $72M 美元
Discover key lessons from the Zunum Aero vs. Boeing lawsuit, where trade secret misuse led to $72M in damages. Learn how startups and corporations can safeguard IP during partnerships and manage risks in high-stakes collaborations.
第 4 集:国际贸易委员会审理的三星京东方商业秘密案
Explore the Samsung-BOE trade secret case and the ITC’s pivotal role in resolving IP disputes. Discover how the ITC’s swift investigations, import bans, and global jurisdiction make it a powerful tool for protecting trade secrets in high-stakes cases.
第 3 集:联邦贸易委员会禁止竞业禁止协议之争
Explore the legal challenges to the FTC’s non-compete ban and its implications for trade secret protection. Learn how companies like Jane Street safeguard sensitive information without non-competes and discover the growing role of the ITC in trade secret disputes.
第 2 集:FDA 官员盗用商业秘密?
Explore the FTC’s non-compete ban and its impact on trade secrets, plus Vanda Pharmaceuticals’ case against the FDA over alleged trade secret disclosures. Learn how these developments shape IP law and government accountability on The Reasonable Measures Podcast.
第 1 集:条条大路通罗马
Join Tim Londergan and Chris on The Reasonable Measures Podcast as they delve into trade secrets, IP law, and global case studies. From India’s push for a trade secret statute to a case law review in the U.S., discover how laws are evolving to meet local business needs.


















